Yandex Search less censored than Brave Search? Please say it isn't so!

[289wk]

@chh_68 ,

I used your ref. ReclaimTheNet.org link and at the web page, found another link to a different story – and used that story’s title as key words: search criteria in the Brave search engine . . . then finding:

Google Drive users stung by macOS ‘.DS_Store’ copyright infringement issue

“https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/226319/google-drive-users-stung-by-macos-ds-store-copyright-infringement-issue”

Excerpt: " Google Drive is causing problems for some macOS users, as the ubiquitous “.DS_Store” files are being misinterpreted by the [Google] cloud storage service as documents that infringe copyright."

I grabbed a “.DS_Store” file from a directory on my Mac, and used a perl script to read the file (because the files seem to be encrypted JSON files that require a password known to Apple or known to the Mac OS, but not apparently known to the user).

Such a “.DS_Store” file can easily contain hundreds of lines, such as, what some users call “bookmarks files.” Those, referring to “.webloc” files that are created when dragging a URL address from the URL address field of a browser . . . to a folder.

When the “.webloc” file settles in the destination folder, the name of the file usually is the web page title of the article at the URL address.

Thus, a “.DS_Store” file in the same destination folder, can end up containing the names of several article titles. The article titles would have plenty of terms pursuant to the contents of such articles.

Thereby, an snooping program authorized by Google, could easily mis-interpret the article titles as copyrighted content material from the body of such articles.

But the chance of Google only of late, discovering what the contents of an Apple directory maintenance item . . . are zero. The “.DS_Store” files have been a part of Mac OS X for decades. What they are, was written about in published articles – and the files’ guts examined – long ago.

What is Google going to do, about discovering the article titles for “misinformation” according to Google?

What is Google going to do, about Google software – particularly Google Analytics and Google Tag Manager – that are used by websites that are deemed untouchables by Google . . . who has decreed that information from such websites must not be seen by western eyes?

Though such untouchable information will still be seen by western eyes that find workarounds, along with millions of other Internet visitors.

Will Google deny the use of its software? Or only deny users access to news and information?

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But then, there is the following:

Google Drive Flags Text Files Containing '1' as a Copyright Infringement

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[treego14]

As the thread starter here and taking all that I have seen and read here into consideration, I have decided to go with Result Hunter as my default search engine for now … https://www.resulthunter.com … Brave Search may be my #1 choice in the near future … I will keep my eye peeled. Thank you for all the wonderful input here so far.

[treego14]

Back to Brave Search now after some disappointing search results on some basic stuff from Result Hunter’s search engine …

[karenndkitchen]

I’ve noticed a bias as well. For example, I just saw a commercial (on TV) for id.me. This is a biometric facial recognition system that will be required for new IRS accounts, old ones to be added in later. From what I’ve heard about this through other sources, id.me is eventually going to contain all of your vaccination and banking information as well. Anything the government wants to store about you can be included. Own a gun? Do you have insurance for it? Which party are you affiliated with? Ever promote vaccine disinformation?

So I entered several phrases about id.me in the search bar and every single thing that came up contained information on how to sign up, what id.me will be used for (your benefit of course. Safety and security!). *Nothing about the downside."

I’ve heard that Brave’s browser actually uses the Google algorithm for search results. Not surprised then. And I’ll be looking for another search engine. Again.

[Saoiray]

@karenndkitchen

I’ve heard that Brave’s browser actually uses the Google algorithm for search results.

That’s not correct. We kind of talked about that in some of the posts above. They do allow users to turn on settings to “fall back” on Google results if they’d like, but it doesn’t use the same algorithm at all.

@karenndkitchen

So I entered several phrases about id.me in the search bar and every single thing that came up contained information on how to sign up, what id.me will be used for (your benefit of course. Safety and security!). *Nothing about the downside."

I don’t see where it’s only saying positive. I mean…

🌐IRS has dropped ID.me's facial recognition tech after backlash,
ID.me facial recognition system dropped by the IRS last month over privacy and equity concerns.

1 week ago - SEATTLE — Washington state is getting ready to roll out the **ID** . **me** facial recognition system dropped by the IRS last month over privacy and equity concerns.

Lots of little things like that. One of the primary articles linked was https://lmtribune.com/business/washington-preps-to-use-id-me-as-furor-grows/article_0cf86ec1-83d4-5ed8-9555-b7fe0c2b1760.html

Human rights activists and some federal lawmakers are asking state government officials, including in Washington, to ban the system. Amid the outcry, Washington’s Employment Security Department says it doesn’t use ID.me to verify the identities of people claiming jobless benefits — but plans to start doing so in June.

[chh_68]

@karenndkitchen

Not surprised then. And I’ll be looking for another search engine. Again.

Goodl luck.

I am saying this stuff for the ninth time now. Afaik, urrent brave search base links were taken from google. See Search Quality at Cliqz Building a search engine from scratch. So, the current results are very similar to google.

But, brave search is in fact independent of any other search engine. It has it own crawler, index mechanism and a way to make it less google like. To do it, you need to enable Wed Discovery Project (WDP).

Also, check tweets from brave ceo nitter.kavin.rocks/brendaneich/with_replies/. Go to few days back, he details everything as to why the results are google like and how to make them not google like.

[openrange]

I saw that too.

My take is, depending on what you’re searching for (and where you’re located), you should be prepared to try more than one search engine.

Anyway, as said, Brave is the new kid on the block and I was surprised at how good it was when it first appeared in beta. Well, I know the tech wasn’t entirely from scratch but still.

[Cookie23]

Yandex has a better image search. Why does a Russian site have less censorship than American searches?

[JimB1]

Can you explain? “Liking” the results from one engine vs. another does not equate to censorship; if you’re getting poorer results from Brave Search then there are feedback mechanisms in place. Also there could be other factors like “Safe search” settings and so on.

[Cookie23]

I use Safe Search. Personally I think they shouldn’t need a “safe” search, just leave off ALL pornography.

I have been using feedback on my android since conception and they have only been getting aggressively worse. The first day was the best day. I think liberals are ruining the algorithm just like they do at Bing Google Presearch and DDG. Take a look at these results. Its pathetic and sad that Goolag has the better results here. I think its sabotage.