# Getting my money back. Ethereum is useless **URL:** \ **Category:** Brave Wallet (Self Custody)\ **Created:** [September 17, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291 "2024-09-17T17:40:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/1 "2024-09-17T17:40:05Z")
How can I get the little bit of money I have in Ethereum back to me? To my bank account? It’s done nothing in the past two months. Crypto is useless to me. When I ask it to send my money, it doesn’t show me anyplace I can actually send to. Thanks. * * * Description of the issue: Is the issue occurring on a specific network? What operating system are you using? Brave Version (check About Brave): Additional Information: ---
**Author:** ![Evan123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brave/user_avatar/community.brave.app/evan123/32/134423_2.png) [@Evan123](https://community.brave.app/u/Evan123)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/2 "2024-09-17T19:24:32Z")
Hello, You can off-ramp your crypto using the Ramp provider. > **[Crypto off-ramp in Brave Wallet | Brave](https://brave.com/blog/sell-with-ramp/)** > > Brave Wallet on desktop now allows users to sell crypto for fiat with expanded Ramp integration. 1. Open the expanded Brave Wallet screen in Brave. This can be done either by clicking the wallet icon in the top right of your browser, or by visiting _brave://wallet_ in the URL bar. 2. From the main portfolio page, click the asset you want to sell. 3. If the asset is available to off-ramp, you’ll see a **Sell** button among the list of accounts that hold that asset. 4. Click **Sell** and enter the amount you wish to off-ramp. 5. Click **Sell with Ramp** once you’re ready, and proceed to Ramp’s site to complete the process. ---
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/3 "2024-09-26T18:06:05Z")
Thanks. Sorry, but I don’t see my asset listed when I open Wallet in Brave. I see just this. ![my screenshot 2024-09-26 at 2.04.48 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/0/1/01911ab0f5914c68f279aea39487a8c1945a340b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Saoiray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brave/user_avatar/community.brave.app/saoiray/32/212354_2.png) [@Saoiray](https://community.brave.app/u/Saoiray)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/5 "2024-09-26T19:16:42Z")
> [@Pb4072](#): > > I see just this. You’re looking at a summary page which is saying you have $287.36 in your portfolio. At this stage you aren’t opening your portfolio at all to even try to take a look at your assets. You could click on `Accounts` which at least shows balance on each network, such as below: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/e/d/edbc9b303e95f3619a61d708d07c7f9aece6f068.png) But your best bet is to hit the ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/8/3/83d0bdd8acb78a9d0af9c0f7dc15c4df64b31377.png) which then directs you to `brave://wallet/crypto/portfolio/assets` which shows all of the specific tokens and quantities. Such as screenshot below: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/8/9/89819437801c12bc847d2762577969d6ca87c93f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/6 "2024-10-02T16:08:28Z")
Thanks. But, I still don’t see anywhere to “sell” my shares. ![my screenshot 2024-10-02 at 12.06.24 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/c/4/c46223d896c1e3ae607683fd569f4a20bd278ac8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Saoiray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brave/user_avatar/community.brave.app/saoiray/32/212354_2.png) [@Saoiray](https://community.brave.app/u/Saoiray)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/7 "2024-10-02T16:35:59Z")
@Pb4072 do you not try clicking on things? For example: # Step 1: Portfolio ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/7/b/7be81b316de34480e30bc386e55f5d86727ea7b4.png) # Step 2: Click on asset: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/2/4/2499366c48cbaae978bcefe7a0b6bcd98b4e0486.png)p # Step 3: Click the three dots (hamburger menu) and choose to Sell ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/d/f/dfd2ea7fd3d51b14ad588790f4f44cf9312e9f2b.png) # Step 4: Choose quantity of crypto token you’re trying to sell and Sell with Ramp ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/4/9/49dff6c09432d238734161c4ffece87f03f53a6f.png) # Step 5: It redirects you. If Ramp is available in your area, it will finalize things here and show any fees (I’m in Florida, it’s not available to me): ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/0/f/0f27510380054d9934275ab8083cc24a0b4af179.png) # If you’re in an area where Ramp can’t be used: Then you’ll have to offload at some other exchange. There are plenty available. In many cases this will mean creating an account with a centralized exchange like Coinbase, Uphold, etc and then sending the crypto there so you can exchange it. There are other options through other types of exchanges or trying to sell directly, but you’ll need to research on that and be aware that it comes with certain risks if you’re not knowledgeable. At least centralized exchanges tend to have little to no risk at all. ---
**Author:** ![Saoiray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brave/user_avatar/community.brave.app/saoiray/32/212354_2.png) [@Saoiray](https://community.brave.app/u/Saoiray)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/8 "2024-10-02T16:46:40Z")
@Evan123 and @steeven all of the above said and done, could you relay feedback to appropriate people that this is an area where we can make some improvement? We could have it a bit easier to find and do. For example: ### 1. Why can’t we have a Sell button from the quick menu, such as in screenshot area below: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/5/8/58b661f75f57d42b49552dbfe1c7d8415d35e39c.png) ### 2. Why no Sell button from the portfolio, along with all of these other buttons? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/4/6/463bdbdf67fbc2e08c1cf4d9bd43ac1d4b331cd9.png) ### 3. Why isn’t Sell available from the specific currency while on the Portfolio page’s hamburger menu, such as below: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/8/7/87ce956c20c8bcff49765e841d63285e7aafee8c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/9 "2024-10-07T11:58:58Z")
Thanks. But, when I choose “Sell,” it shows me a blank screen, as if I have no money at all. I only have $268.88. I bought $300 to start with. This is what I see after choosing “Sell.” ![my screenshot 2024-10-07 at 7.54.17 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/7/9/794ed6ead667bee4b9f09e1b6a1c7909af772e34.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Saoiray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brave/user_avatar/community.brave.app/saoiray/32/212354_2.png) [@Saoiray](https://community.brave.app/u/Saoiray)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/10 "2024-10-07T12:39:27Z")
@Pb4072 it shows you have 0.109291 ETH. It’s asking you to choose how much of that you want to sell. So either click where it says 0.00 and type in a number or you can click on the HALF or MAX button to generate that much. Don’t forget that you won’t be able to send if you choose MAX because you need some ETH to remain in your Wallet to pay the gas fee. So reduce what you choose by amount needed for gas. ---
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/11 "2024-10-07T15:19:01Z")
This is absolutely ridiculous now. Here’s what it says when I put that “number” in. I mean, why in the world can’t it just use dollars and cents? ![my screenshot 2024-10-07 at 11.17.38 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/a/0/a0de5482a56737b1d1a07ceedbaae82f79344f9a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Evan123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brave/user_avatar/community.brave.app/evan123/32/134423_2.png) [@Evan123](https://community.brave.app/u/Evan123)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/12 "2024-10-07T15:20:22Z")
> [@Saoiray](#): > > Don’t forget that you won’t be able to send if you choose MAX because you need some ETH to remain in your Wallet to pay the gas fee. So reduce what you choose by amount needed for gas. You cannot send it all at once. You need to withhold a small amount to pay the gas fee on the blockchain. You can learn more here: [https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/15086424245389-Understanding-Gas-and-Fees](https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/15086424245389-Understanding-Gas-and-Fees) ---
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/13 "2024-10-07T15:24:47Z")
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I chose MAX. And, here is where I am. Why should I pay any “gas fee?” And, how am I supposed to know how much that is? All of this is really making me hate crypto. Even Brave now. What the hell is my “Ethereum (ETH) address?” ![my screenshot 2024-10-07 at 11.22.08 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/8/4/841e5d9ff54fc9839f3a0e0910bfabe92d47d66a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/14 "2024-10-07T15:26:55Z")
And, here’s what it says in the link you just sent me, Saoiray. “Brave Wallet automatically adjusts the price of gas for the amount that will likely be required to successfully complete a transaction.” So, when will it tell me how the “gas fee” is? ---
**Author:** ![Saoiray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brave/user_avatar/community.brave.app/saoiray/32/212354_2.png) [@Saoiray](https://community.brave.app/u/Saoiray)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/15 "2024-10-07T15:31:23Z")
@Pb4072 Cryptocurrency can be confusing, especially when it comes to understanding fees and wallet types. It’s always a good idea to start small and research as much as you can before making larger transactions. To clarify, Brave Wallet is a **self-custody wallet**. This means you have full control over your assets, but it also means that withdrawing funds can require going through an exchange, which often involves gas fees or other transaction fees. This is why some users opt for **custodial wallets** like those provided by Binance, Coinbase, or Uphold. The downside is that your cryptocurrency is technically in the custody of those companies, which means you need to rely on them to keep your funds secure. If they detect any suspicious activity, they can freeze your funds. Self-custody wallets avoid this but require you to manage exchanges and gas fees yourself. Regarding the Ramp integration in Brave, it’s one of several exchanges you can use. You can also use others if you find their fees more favorable. > [@Pb4072](#): > > here is where I am. In the screenshot you shared, you should see a **Details** button next to the amount of **266.42 USD** you’ll receive. Clicking that will provide a breakdown of the fees. > [@Pb4072](#): > > Why should I pay any “gas fee?” The **gas fee** is essentially the cost for processing a transaction on the blockchain—it’s required to move your crypto from one wallet or platform to another. For more details, you might find it helpful to check out this article on gas fees: [https://www.coinbase.com/learn/crypto-basics/what-are-gas-fees](https://www.coinbase.com/learn/crypto-basics/what-are-gas-fees) ---
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/16 "2024-10-07T15:36:50Z")
Thanks. OK. Under Details, it tells me exactly what my fees are, in dollars and cents no less. Now, where do I get my Ethereum address? And, it appears to me that it’s going to take my fees out automatically. Isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/17 "2024-10-07T15:38:56Z")
I thought I did start small here. I only invested $300. And, it’s not gained one cent. That’s why I want out. ---
**Author:** ![Saoiray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brave/user_avatar/community.brave.app/saoiray/32/212354_2.png) [@Saoiray](https://community.brave.app/u/Saoiray)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/18 "2024-10-07T15:40:53Z")
> [@Pb4072](#): > > it appears to me that it’s going to take my fees out automatically. Isn’t it? Yeah, once you get to that point. > [@Pb4072](#): > > I thought I did start small here. Guess it depends on your money. $300 is pretty steep for me, but to each their own. > [@Pb4072](#): > > And, it’s not gained one cent. Crypto like Ethereum, Solana, etc tend to be more long-term investments. Your quicker changes will happen in meme coins and all, but they also are more volatile and can crash. I was going to answer a bit more but my ride is here and I have to go. Might give some more info later ., ---
**Author:** ![Pb4072](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@Pb4072](https://community.brave.app/u/Pb4072)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/19 "2024-10-07T15:45:47Z")
OK. Thanks for all your help. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/brave/original/3X/1/8/182067f3480d1a5e7aea5ae3131b116ca1ef7918.png) [@system](https://community.brave.app/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.brave.app/t/getting-my-money-back-ethereum-is-useless/569291/20 "2024-11-06T15:46:28Z")
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